N55 is my preferred engine in the E92 lineup. The second N52 mod we're discussing is a performance intake. I can't tell you for sure, but there are a couple of guys on IG who have S55 swapped an F31. I thought about s55 firstly, but lots of guys said that it would be much harder to install and tuning will cost more too. the new b58 engine is more lighter, it is a straight six engine, the torque are better than s65. E90 / E91 / E92 / E93Model Year: 2006 - 2011. 8. You can't swap in a b58 into anything older due to how bmw changed communication lines/data bus lines. 08-12-2021, 12:16 PM. Car is a manual, would have been even better to have a B58 DCT! The B58 is probably a much more natural transplant since that chassis already comes with it. That doesn't sound right. At least one of them has to be your style. Push the connector into the new socket housing as far as you can with your fingers. G22Model Year: 2020 + Previous Generations; F32 / F33Model Year: 2013 - 2019. 4. That's pretty cool. Poor choice for a race car ??? Do all of those fixes for 4k and drive the crap out of it. G22Model Year: 2020 + Previous Generations; F32 / F33Model Year: 2013 - 2019. The B58's smaller bore allows the engine to be shorter in overall length resulting in a stronger crankshaft, and the considerably longer stroke means longer connecting rods for reduced friction. The swap will be very expensive and for that cost you'd be better off putting that money towards buying a car with a B58 in it. I am just curious if it would be possible to engine swap a 2008 E92 320i with the more modern turbo N20/B48 engine. Still saving up for the car itself. Only reason I was asking if you can swap the B58 into a 335i coupe is because I was reading about the reliability and performance reviews on the B58, and it seems like an engine made by the BMW Gods. Of the eight BMWs I had, the M3 was my least favorite. Bringing the BMW community together. E90 / E92Model Year: 2007 - 2013. hello im fairly new to this car thing too.. i recently purchased my 428I about 7 months ago and im not going to lie i love my car and the n20 engine has been very reliable to me but to be honest i want to go on with my build and proceed with more power bc the n20 can only hold so much power before it blows up. Sure, it'll fit dimension-wise but you'll have to retrofit so much to make it work and communicate properly with everything. The stage 1 kit comes in at $1,199 and is able to support roughly 550whp. www.n54tuning.com / mike@n54tuning.com Your # 1 Source for BMW Performance Parts at the LOWEST Prices! shouldn't be too bad considering that the B58 sits on the F chassis, B58 block is pretty similar to the S58. But I don't know if that exists yet, and many if not most features in the car would work after besides the engine. bimmerfest.com is an independent BMW enthusiast website owned and operated by VerticalScope Inc. VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. The guy's N55 let go on track, so decided to swap a B58 into it. VS - Wilwood Drag Brake Kit E90 E91 E92 E93 E82. Also I made a choice with b58, because I thought in that time that with supra release tuners would pay much more attention for this platform. [prev in list] [next in list] [prev in thread] [next in thread] List: xen-devel Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] Booting signed xen.efi through shim From: Tamas K Lengyel <tamas tklengyel ! G82Model Year: 2021 + Previous Generations; F82Model Year: 2014 - 2020. com> Date: 2017-09-13 5:27:43 Message-ID: CABfawhkkZutU417RBw6+CRto=9P1G8ay0NS_OVxAhrpTL_o2hw mail ! Jul 30, 2022. It'll require all wiring, DME, trans and all assoc computers steering, then all interior tech to match too such as cluster AC radio etc. Built by KK-Performance. I received ended car on 28 March, how I remember. A forum community dedicated to BMW owners and enthusiasts. Drives: 2011 LCI 320i. Id sooner swap a boat anchor instead of the N20, therere about worth the same. Rep. 19. Definitely something to go with for X-drive just on the ease of install/programming alone. So the swap itself isn't really worth it in your opinion? He must be an electronics genius to make every system on the car work as stock with that swap B58. according to leebmann24 , 89 kg for the 70 and 81 kg for the 50, great writewe need more these kind of write ups on the forum, The F20 was never equipped with an HP70 at the factory, unlike the F30 and the like. Fettled M135i EB AT - gone but not forgotten: N55 Engine / Drivetrain / Exhaust / Bolt-ons / Tuning. It would be a pure race car build at that point, which, if you're doing such a thing, is a heavy chassic and poor choice for a race car anyway. 1 Reply More posts you may like It would make more sense and be much easier to install a N52B30 from an older 1 or 5 series. G30Model . By the time you're done, you prolly could buy a 335 twice over. M markusmarkus Registered 2018 M240i Joined Jul 22, 2008 So much so that I'd prefer it over the N55. I have done this conversion on my own e91 320 lci since finding an lci e91 n54 proved very difficult and I find non lci rather dated in comparison. The B58M30 01 is a Bavarian motor that found its way under the hood of the Mk V Supra as part of the joint-venture that saw the two carmakers developing the new-generation sportscars together, with. Its not worth it at all. Regular price $140 View. Also, this is going to be a 5 figure cost swap. :). Such a better motor than the N55. Don't miss our N55 400+hp guide or N55 engine problems article. Without a doubt. Until tuning gets WAY further down the line, no one is going to be making big power on these motors without. Vader Solution. ! I wonder how difficult the swap is, considered it when I had mine. BMW N52 Performance Mods - Intake Upgrade. F30 335i xDrive PWG - MPPK Flash, Got a new motor and the hpfp is different, To become a vendor visit: https://bit.ly/ss-vendor-apply. However, if you're trying to run heavy E85 mixtures you'll probably cap this stage 1 Dorch HPFP well before 550whp. IF, and I do mean IF the B58 is better than the N54, by transitive property the B58 is then better than the 2JZ. F90Model Year: 2018 + Previous Generations; . so i want to do an engine swap and get the b58 on my 428i! Although cost is higher you'll be getting a new built transmission and not a used one. Meaning I don't think it will hold up well at 600whp+ power levels. Content on bimmerfest.com is generated by its users. G30Model Year: 2017 + . Youll probably beat any b58 any day of the week. We also have tons of content about N55 upgrades such as N55 fueling mods, turbo upgrades, and so much more! Stock turbos, the B58 is better. From $586.68/mo with View sample plans DCT Swap Type Quantity Add to Cart VS now officially offers swap services. Saw this post linked from the 6MT trans limit discussion. Posts. That's wild! M4. Do you have any videos on youtube? I guess that is kinda what I'm asking. Engine / Drivetrain / Exhaust / Bolt-ons / Tuning. Funny that I should stumble on this thread . I have a E46 Coupe race car currently with a M54 3.0 Motor. I had the hardtop coupe version of that car (e92). Waste of time and money. Read up on the N20 timing chain failures; one of the worst engines ever designed, IMO. Posts. This replacement charge pipe features all-aluminum construction, high-quality glossy black finish, CNC machined flanges, 2 optional 1/8" NPT methanol bungs, OEM style mounting hardware for a direct fit, and a lifetime warranty. Its way better and stiffer than the f30, You're talking $10,000 on the swap alone! Handicap friendly. You really might as well buy a 135i or an M140i from the get-go. It's been done before. Do you have more photos of the swap process? The whole powertrain system and electronics will need to be modified, this is a complete custom change. N54/N55 has 300hp & 300 lb-ft of torque while the B58 has 382hp & 369 lb-ft of torque. JavaScript is disabled. G22Model Year: 2020 + As we all know, the N54 is the german equivalent of the 2JZ. A 335i is more than just the engine. Thread Tools: Search this Thread 01-05-2018, 06:57 AM #1: billabum. Whoever owns this car is my hero. Appreciate 0 Quote 04-23-2022, 05:40 PM #5: turnsignalslol. I also saw someone with a 2015 320xi pre-lci manage to have a B58 swapped into his F30. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. Different transmission and differential. 95C9EB54-ACFF-4E23-AD5D-8C082172A175.jpeg. Welcome to N54Tuning, your one stop shop for all your BMW Tuning and BMW Performance Modifications for the N54, N55, N20, N26, S55, B58/B48 and other BMW platforms! I have a full e92 335 missing motor and box if you need parts. Held rain or shine 7 am to 2 pm. I have a 2003 530i and my dad and I have recently started looking at options for an upgrade. Press J to jump to the feed. I haven't found any definitive answers for this question but how interchangeable are the N55s from different years and chassis, so I was hoping the wisdom of the forum could illuminate what would work with what. Availability: "Due to the overwhelming popularity of our oil pans we are doing our best to keep up with the orders. JavaScript is disabled. FIRST b58 swapped e36 470HP 700+NM DRIFT 34,728 views Sep 22, 2021 857 Dislike Share Save Ostap Demkiv 256 subscribers B58B30A 2018 M140i engine 403bhp 700Nm 100RON tune @afterfix SCS Delta GDI6. Contact: Lester Manwiller - 610-823-4656; hamburgswapmeet@ontelaunneeaaca.com. E90/E91/E92/E93 (2006 - 2013) N20/B48 swap 2008 E92 320i. Thank you for information. N55, S55, B58 none of them have dethroned the king, There are a few threads in this forum showing n54s with no meth just FBO e85 mix with inlets that are hitting over 500whp, S55 did, but its in a different price bracket lol, N54 Turbo Engine / Drivetrain / Exhaust Modifications - 335i, http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho1213066&page=4. I'm not sure if I missed it, but is the B58 closed deck? M4. Held rain or shine. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. 1. I remember Terry saying somewhere that the factory fueling is capped at right around 400 whp and the only way around it is TBI, PI, Meth, etc. That is impressive! I cannot imagine the level of reverse engineering to get everything to work. I'm not dead set on an E90, I'm dead set on a E92, E90 - has 4 doors E92 - has 2 doors E93 - convertible. E90 / E92Model Year: 2007 - 2013. I also saw someone with a 2015 320xi pre-lci manage to have a B58 swapped into his F30. 1 marcus45A1 5 mo. 4 doors is 2 doors too many. I'd entertain the science of installing a B58 engine into a 2010 e61 535xi wagon (N54 engine) 1 E90 / E91 / E92 / E93Model Year: 2006 - 2011. bimmerfest.com is not in any way affiliated with Bayerische Motoren Werke AG. G22Model Year: 2020 + Previous Generations; F32 / F33Model Year: 2013 - 2019. Wow Awesome write up! Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. So if everything is stock, I'd bet on the B58 over the N54/N55. shouldn't be too bad considering that the B58 sits on the F chassis, B58 block is pretty similar to the S58. Allows for less friction for a quicker revving engine at the cost of cylinder strength. We have tons of content for the N55, and we're always adding more. I've been on real-oem seeing what part numbers are the same between the 435 and the 440, and a lot of the modules match up, even things like front and rear subframes match and things like that.. 320xi f30 swapped in 340xi. E90 / E92Model Year: 2007 - 2013. Guys spent 3 weeks for making complete result. Just buy an M240i 6MT if you want a B58 in the sportiest manual chassis it came in. _____ In Roundel magazine July 2020, Alex McCulloch writes, "An engine swap is not for the faint of heart" and also says, " the last 10% [of the swap] can be 90% of the heartache". I suppose as long as you're starting with a bare bones skeleton e92, frame only, you might be able to Frankenstein one together? Way cheaper and easier to just buy a 335i, debage it and slap a 320i badge on. N20, N26, B46, B48 Turbo Engine / Drivetrain / Exhaust Modifications, https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh.php?t=1548060. LOVED it right up until a guy nailed the front end and totaled it. the 340 is the upgraded 335 and it has been 10 years so yea its about time BMW release an engine as good as the N54 (power wise). Jun 25, 2022 Hi. Any challenges you had because the 320 body? The main candidate for an engine swap is the B58 powerplant. This is very cool, I've been looking at more information on B58 swaps because the N55 in my 435 isn't doing particularly great.. when it blows I really want to swap a B58 because I dislike the N55. BMW's N52 engine uses an intake designed to minimize noise rather than maximize airflow. High capacity 5 1/2" deep front sump design with side kick outs for maximum oil capacity 1/2" thick CNC machined 6061 Billet Aluminum Flange and back plate Machined gasket surface to ensure no gasket leaks Rigid design like the OEM GM pan to ensure maximum strength and durability Does anyone know weather or not the B58 shares the same engine mounts as the M54B30? VS - HeadPort Plugging Kit N54 N55 S55 B58. Bimmerpost Model Selection. It looks like the one you swapped in is lighter weight with all those cut outs. Edit: Got my answer, thanks for your help! However, they only offer products for 2013+ N55 engines. A B58 with a DCT is what I always wanted the M2 to be. I wouldn't call this a "swap" as you can't just swap the engine. I'll take one for the team, and I will happily let someone use my car to find out. The N55 is a pretty solid engine. Pure's built transmission is probably the absolute best option for upgraded transmissions we have right now, but also the most expensive coming in at $6000 for their Stage 1 transmission. The original 325i was quieter on gravel roads in the rear compartment compared to the transformed car. i saw a lot of e46 engine swap on internet. Also we lost 10 days on delivering new cooling pipes instead broken, which were damaged during delivering of swap kit. 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