This route went from Chicago to Indianapolis and was called the Airline route. The search on Bicycle Road might not mean much. Two different composite sketches and a grainy image of the murder suspect recovered from Libby German's cellphone. There may well have been a giant stuffed bear at the scene that day. Law enforcement has never spoken publicly in reference to specific named witnesses or sightings. Anyone can post out here, and thats pretty much what happens, unfortunately. Undated. Undated. Based on my understanding through reading the case so far, there were at least 4 witnesses at around the trail that day at around the time of down the hill (slightly before or after). The sketch released on April 22ndis representative of the face of the person captured in the video on Liberty Germans cell phone as he was walking on the high bridge. The quote above was written by reporterAlexis McAdamsin an article that was printed by FOX59, IndyStar and CBS-4, if accurate, it would confirm that Libby's phone was recovered at the crime scene. So now we have testimony from three excellent sources two independent search party members and an LE source close to the investigation. Journalist ine Cain and attorney Kevin Greenlee have been reporting on the 2017 double homicide of Libby German, 14, and Abigail Williams, 13, for almost two years on their smash-hit podcast The Murder Sheet. I mean, how many other eye colors are there, other than blue? And when they had found the shoe they had asked what kind of shoes the girls were wearing. So we have four sources for the dolls story, two from LE and two from search party members. There has been no official indication of if this description is still relevant to the investigation as it was associated with the oldsketch. c) Where was fsg while BG was on the bridge with Abby and Libby? Turns out it's a guy whose sexually interested in children, who's had multiple arrests for it right? Enjoying your content very much. Ive only known about this case since early last summer (2020). It is possible that a WLFI-18 reporter spoke to someone in law enforcement before or after the press conference in order to ascertain this. Allen appeared before Carroll County Circuit Court Judge Benjamin Diener Oct. 28 and entered a not-guilty plea. To me they are like magicians pulling rabbits out of hats. That is exactly what he said. Currently, ine and Kevin say they're digging into the past of Allen to find out more about who he was before his arrest, and before he was "plunged into the spotlight of this heinous murder.". This is what they told us: But now we have a shocking new revelation. All arrows are in this map are abstract approximations and not intended to be taken literally. Jos haluat listietoa ja haluat hallita valintojasi, napsauta Hallitse asetuksia. On July 17, 2011 the police released a composite sketch of their suspect in the Delphi murders. "I think the media in these cases can play a very important role in informing the public and keeping people focused on the facts of the investigation as opposed to speculation, as well as keeping interest in the case going, and tips pouring in," explained ine. -Mike Patty, Timestamp 32:00, Interview with Mike And Becky Patty by Gray Hughes, 6. "I can't tell you eye color, but I can say they're not blue!" lying in the grass between a group of trees deep in the woods, The bodies were found on private property, about. Allen has been charged with two counts of murder and is currently being held in a state facility without bond. He said, 'did you happen to see two girls up there?' The clip is a male voice saying Down the hill. [12]. [6] The bridge was a common backdrop for photo shoots like senior pictures and wedding photos. Perhaps he was, and that would be an interesting theory. The total reward amount now equals $325,000. The previously released sketch. Information sent by email is kept confidential and is only shared with investigators. her. Indiana Landmarks Announces Rescue of Monon High Bridge. It is probable the "pinging around town" was a miscommunication around cellphone triangulation or cell tower function. The girls were reported missing by 5:30 p.m., and an Amber Alert was sent out across the state of Indiana for the missing teenagers. VITAL WITNESS. We now know who the FBI was looking into at first as a potential . It said, We have a secret and the photo shows both of them holding up their hands in secret signs. We simply think that he ought to be investigated for possible involvement in the crime, unwitting or not. On April 22, 2019 a longer version of the clip is released with the voice saying Guys Down the hill. [14] Whether guys word directly preceded the down the hill part or if some audio of the girls talking was removed is a subject of debate online. On April 22, 2019 a sketch of the person who the Indiana State Police believe attacked Libby and Abby was released during a press conference detailing "a new direction" the investigation was taking. He said, 'no I did not.' The Indiana State Police superintendent explains the reason for the different sketches. ", CVS customer Betty Cummings told the Indy Star, "He just blended right in. We assume that is true because there is a rumor to that effect and also the FBI search warrant we have says they are looking for photos, videos, cameras, videocameras, film, etc. "He also made it clear that the police investigation is still actively soliciting tips. 2017 delphi murders of 2 teenage girls moving in 'new direction,' indiana state police say The teens were reported missing on Feb. 13, 2017, after they were dropped off at the Delphi Historic . PLENTY more shocking twists and turns should be expected in the months ahead as the Delphi murders investigation remains active and ongoing, according to a duo of prolific true crime podcasters. Legal Statement. Photo from the perspective of the railroad bridge, view from the west facing east. 2. Precisely what evidence police yielded to establish enough probable cause to make the arrest remains unclear: all documents related to the matter have been placed under seal for the time being. [20]. Is this where you are thinking that the items came from? Did they both have a phone? No. failed . Indiana State Police also want to talk to anyone who was parked at. Also, if he did cut her throat with one huge swing of a hatchet, it would have soaked BG in blood according to a search warrant from the FBI obtained. . The girls disappeared Feb. 13, 2017, after going for a hike on the Monon High Bridge Trail. Family members of Allens,despite multiple attempts to reach them, have not yet spoken publicly about his arrest. You are the best btw! This quote, which was mentioned earlier, references a set of footprints leading up the the bodies when the bodies were found for the first time by volunteers. I always thought it was child protective services until last year. And they have found someone who looks at that video that they released and says yes I definitely saw that guy minutes before the girls came by and I saw his face and that's where this sketch came from. At the moment, there is no evidence whatsoever that this young man assisted Mr. X in his crime. And spent a significant amount of time looking for the man in this sketch, and as you said Jim, that man it turned out recently was arrested and was a sex offender. Delphi Murders Leaked textsIn the video below, a YouTube channel named Zav Girl separated these texts and posted them in a separate video. Remember the social media photo Abby and Libby posted the night before the murders? "So who knows what lies ahead? Instead, it has been an area of active investigation for four years. "It's concerning that it's a local guy," Carroll County Prosecutor Nicholas McLeland said Monday at a press conference. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. MONSTER'S TRICKS. It was Child Protective services. We dont know what his original first name was, but his original last name was not the same as Mr. Xs. Robert Lindsay, Independent Journalist: l Talk about Things You're Not Supposed to Talk About. If you were parked there or know who was parked there please contact the officer at the command post at the Delphi city building. This case is like looking through a darkened window of a home, you can see what's going on in the living room but you have no idea what's happening in the kitchen. Use tab to navigate through the menu items. There is no good composite of the main suspect because no one saw BG with his face fully revealed. Clearly someone who looked like him was both the Catfish Boy and was seen as a suspect at the crime scene, but perhaps it was not this young man. Click the tweet to view the imageat a larger size. Even after the arrest of a suspect on Oct. 26, police have declined to answer most questions about the case, saying they don't want to jeopardize the prosecution. Well that's because that's where all the kids were. Perhaps Catfish Boy and Young BG are two different people. The man thought about his words for a bit before wording them very carefully. At the entrance of the trail? I always thought it was Child Protective Services, too! They were reported missing that night, and their lifeless bodies were found the next day in a wooded area about half a mile from the railroad bridge. It is on the other side of Deer Creek that the bodies are found. Estimations of the depth range from ankle deep to knee deep. I am quite happy to ban you here today. But they were both definitely on board via the sexual posing of the girls, the dolls on the ground, and the sheet with the smiley face on it at the very least. "The started up towards the trailhead. Horse and buggy pictured standing on the Deer Creek with the Monon High Bridge visible in the background. I do believe that the new developments in this case are pertinent and involve the early search on bicycle road in some way. 1 of 2. "We havent closed the door on the investigation," McLeland said. I mean, if it is then its a hell of a job sleuthing wise. As we noted above, one girl suffered a grievous wound to the throat. Why not join the 240+ members who have already signed up for the best Delphi sleuthing team of all? Anyone with information about this case is encouraged to send tips to this email address:abbyandlibbytip@cacoshrf.com. All of the material is referenced in terms of where it come from and how good of a source it is. Haven't heard of rumored nasa pics. . Also, a slow cut even with a big knife would not have drenched BG in blood. I also didnt take the trail that leads to the right. The full press conference can be found on YouTube and nothing seems to give this impression. Source: Tippecanoe-ISP February 15, 2017 13:49 file, Source: Tippecanoe-ISP February 15, 2017 13:19 file. McLeland said investigators are not only seeking information about Richard Allen, "but about any other person, you may have. The next day, two bodies were found in an area along Deer Creek, east of the bridge. Investigators searched Allen's home two weeks ago, with a focus on the property's fire pit, FOX 59 reported. The Witnesses - Let's get the story straight. There was also a 19 year old man who lived on the street who was said to be talking to Libby, so that might be the tie-in you are thinking of. . And they yelled out the type of shoe that Libby was wearing. The search yielded evidence that led to his arrest. Market data provided by Factset. But what we found out recently was he is apparently not the killer. The police obviously know who theyre looking for. Just a question. "A volunteer searcher walks the woods near the Monon high bridge east of Delphi where the two teen girls went hiking Monday afternoon and never returned. However, his middle name is different. After searching, All rights reserved. Said Monday at a press conference can be found on YouTube and nothing seems give... 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